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Cyanbane
Posted: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:06:51 PM


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This is all speculation, nothing is set in stone, but there is a good post here about all the rumors and hearsay about WOW's new Catacalysm expansion. This caught my eye:

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Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.


EQ2 is working on its 6th expansion, although TSO didn't really introduce any new lands, it did introduce new zones. Blizzard is just getting around to announcing this third expansion, based on their delivery times of previous ones I would probably suspect it will hit around Q3 of 2010, and they are NOT adding new lands but are reworking previous content (like EQ2 did a few years ago with its first few zones).

It really amazes me hardcore WOW people are not up in arms about no real new lands to explore...

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Lomax
Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:54:51 AM


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Looking through the massive comment list on MMOChampion a lot of people are up in arms over this, but its all based on rumour and also on datamining of the PTR.

Blizzard know that people data mine it, and they have in the past embedded in some jokes like achievements that are just plain silly, but despite that I think some of this information is real. Some made me laugh, pretty sure that the class limitation changes will not go ahead, they'd really be unpopular with the hardcore that are left there and tear apart what's left of the original storyline.

In some ways though I like the idea of making the older zones relevant with the phasing, although in WoW's case if they carry on the WotLK approach it'll all be easy mode, and I severely doubt the 5 level cap increase, if they implemented that then no one would bother with new gear until part way through the raiding. A lot of it does feel like the typical fanboi wishlist of things mixed in with some facts.

Overall I'm surprised they have any hardcore audience left in the game, I know quite a few people who have left it over the previous expansion, perhaps I just didn't notice people drop out before, but the everything easy mode of the WotLK expansion turned a lot of people off. With the latest stunt of making all the easy dungeons drop the top level raid gear tokens it feels like desperation myself to keep people interested. If this expansion is a giant content reuse exercise then I expect that people will get bored of it very fast here since people were bored rigid of the content they reused for the WotLK expansion (the first and one of the two only raids available was actually a complete level 60 one, same graphics, same game play, I think this burnt out the hardcore that had seen it before).

This bit though made me laugh

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phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. With the revamp, a greater narritive and sense progression will be offered to players. Some zones and dungeons will


Surely its a joke? right? :)

So if there are barely any new lands to explore I'd say there will be a lot leaving, if not at the start, but a few months in as people realise they've been running the same content endlessly before. Hence my vote is a lot of this is misinformation.
Cyanbane
Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:12:22 AM


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Lomax wrote:

So if there are barely any new lands to explore I'd say there will be a lot leaving, if not at the start, but a few months in as people realise they've been running the same content endlessly before. Hence my vote is a lot of this is misinformation.


Very well could be, I am actually very interested to see what Blizzcon brings us in terms of details on it.
Lomax
Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:10:59 AM


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Very well could be, I am actually very interested to see what Blizzcon brings us in terms of details on it.


They have been clever in stoking interest in it. Just saw a warcraft comic snippet that seems to be the way Blizzard release their lore. Not a comic fan here since I find it hard to work out what's going on.

It hints at exactly the storyline that MMOChampion put out, even of some of the class changes (although that screams cheap to me in terms of game design for an expansion), I still think there is a bit of misinformation in there with the 5 level thing etc, but I'm shifting to believe more of it.

Its an intriguing concept phasing the whole of the old world and then moving players into this new world after an event, done well it has potential, I still can't see older players enjoying re-running content very similar to what they experienced before.
Cyanbane
Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:58:16 AM


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Lomax wrote:

Its an intriguing concept phasing the whole of the old world and then moving players into this new world after an event, done well it has potential, I still can't see older players enjoying re-running content very similar to what they experienced before.


I totally agree the differentiation in the content is what is going to be key. it is certainly a gutsy move on Blizzard's part. They probably don't have much to worry even if it fails though (ie Diablo II/new Starcraft on horizon).
Theodoric
Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:07:52 AM


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I am one who is all for the games providing a reason to go through old content again. What WoW is doing is basically forcing the player base to do it again. Gutsy. Best scenario, release new content simultaneously but key the access to new lands based upon completion of the old world revamped stuff.

Ive often thought about how it must suck to have so much development and art invested in zones that no one is seeing anymore.
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